• Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    How people can look at (mostly) state owned rail vs private airlines and still think the free market benefits the average person is one of life’s big mysteries to me.

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      16 days ago

      I mean, Trump won the vote, and Brexit won the vote… Something tells me it’s as simple as most people are fucking stupid.

  • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    For what it’s worth: this was apparently a concept created by an airline seat company called Aviointeriors who showed the idea off at trade shows in 2010 (as the “SkyRider”) and 2018 (as the “SkyRider 2.0” pictured here.) Pretty much all the news articles about it are about Aviointeriors claiming vague unsourced “plans” for them to be adopted by some future date, steeped in Aviointeriors’ corporate PR speak, but the articles mostly end up being about the intense public backlash to the idea. No airlines have announced any plans to buy and use these seats, not even those lunatics at RyanAir, and in the years since all SkyRider mentions have been quietly removed from Aviointeriors’ own site.

    Sources:

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      The fact this company is still around makes me think someone with a lot of money is trying to promote the concept every so often just to see if the public might finally accept this ludicrous idea. A company being around for 15 years with 0 sales and just a concept means someone wants this to happen but thinks the only problem is that they haven’t figured out the right pitch.

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    16 days ago

    Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats? Seems like you’d save the same amount of space or more with vastly more comfort.

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      The serious non-joke answer is the same as the one for these standing seats: emergency exit speed. When an airplane crash lands you have like less than 2 minutes to get everyone out before the huge inferno happens and roasts people. So for standing seats that pack even more people into an airplane, they have to prove that they can still get everyone out before the deadline. For laying-down seats they would have to prove the same thing.

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        Now, it would be pretty reactionary for me to say that you are wrong, especially when speaking about Americans or even the UK. But we are all a byproduct of our environment and I still have empathy and I don’t want a fat shame But I definitely don’t want to glorify it and I want to find the source of the problem Because people don’t necessarily choose to be overweight shit, I’m a little chunky. I’m a poor Yankee. Oh, also, very interesting, China is a capitalist country and it has an obese problem. This is all just shit on top of shit. Like, we gotta go down this rabbit hole of causation. But people don’t have the attention span. One day at a time, I suppose.

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      Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats?

      Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.

      But it’s all shit regardless. Boeing can barely even make planes that don’t fall apart on the runway. The American airline industry’s fleet is increasingly defunct. The FAA is gutted. Airports are falling into disrepare due to mismanagement. You’ll be lucky to get any kind of air travel in another decade.

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        Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.

        Wouldn’t the same group have trouble standing for an entire flight?

        If only there was some sort of halfway point between lying down and standing up, something which would be easier to than lying down, but wouldn’t be as physically demanding as standing up.

        Oh well.

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            Hmm…

            Well that’s one thing I can’t really complain about in Finland, access to physically disabled people. Its honestly pretty great, it’s been in the infra-design and all design mentality for decades.

            Anywhere there is public access, you’ll probably also find disabled access.

            Like just today, I felt a little bit proud, as I spotted an outhouse built to specifications allowing wheelchair access.

            We aren’t the utopia people seem to think we are, but if you’re in a wheelchair, you’ll still get access to nice nature paths on which to be depressed on. So that’s nice.

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      Yeah, since this is a shit post, why don’t they wrap the passengers like a piece of luggage and store them on a shelf? Save so much room… Just give them diapers! /S

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      And if the plane fails, jump out of the plane with the chair and sit down/stand up as you’re about to hit the ground.

      You won’t receive any fall damage during the animation.

      (Make sure to check patch notes, this is a 2020 update exploit)

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    15 days ago

    Honestly, that may actually be more comfortable for me than trying to fold my legs into the tiny rows they have now.

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    I can’t wait to see people passing out or getting injured because of these seats.

    E: plenty of people arguing like people of good health will be the only passengers.

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      What could go wrong standing for two hours… Nothing probably if you’re a healthy young individual

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        People are often advised to not lock their knees for a long time while standing (ex: marching band, or standing at attention in the military), and you cannot force anyone to have healthy posture. The ergonomics of these seats appear to take some of the load off the legs and feet, but it’s something to consider for patrons with more sedentary lifestyles. Many people believe themselves to be fit individuals until they are placed in uncomfortable conditions for a long time or experience unexpected stress. They could manage to injure themselves in some way, then find some reason to litigate.

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    Next step - put bicycle seats, reducent material for backs. Then add bicycle pedals for engines, to reduce fuel usage. None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.

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      14 days ago

      You must be a wizard. Of course the savings aren’t transferred to you. When they fuck up. They put it on the consumer. Time is unwinding. The poor pay more.

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    I don’t get it. Why not just have bunk beds and everyone gets to lay down like those sleeper busses in Asia. They get way more people on those busses than with just seats

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